Correspondence mainly between Mother Mary martin and the former Prior of Glenstal Dom. Bede Lebbe
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203 Archivistische beschrijving results for Sisters
Mother Mary Martin writing to Father Prior about the withdrawing of an application for setting up her order in the diocese of Cork. She attaches two letters to show the Prior what is going on.
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Caritas
+
glenstal Priory
Murroe _
Our Lady of Mt Carmel
36.
My dear Father Prior
than I intended to without a
I have left you longer
letter I was busy + yesterday
interrupted all morning so could
ot sit down to write + have
copies of letters ready for you.
. there was nothing urgent as
you will see from the enclosed
I am sending you a copy o
the reply from His Excellency
which only arrived on tuesday
-
them a copy
of the answer I
sent to. day which I showed
Dom David before sending
I am perfectly happy as regards
the decision for M. M.M + believe
Gods Will but I feel keenly
leaving here especially just at
present when I know your difficult -
the uphill work you have ahead
of you. I ask God to accept our
sacrifice
which we all feel
happy to leave Glenstal for the
success
of the foundation here +
M.M.M. may never be separated
in my mind o prayers.
We had a large party of
We had a large party of
grand day; the only complaint was
they found it too short.
M. Loughlin bought a stool +
gave me an offering for the Art
School. She enjoyed her stay +
is very happy about her daughter
but regrets she is not suited for
religious life. One of the little
boys (7 yrs) asked + begged to
stay so I thought of what you
would say, so I kept him +
sent him back with Miss Leyden
yesterday morning. He did not
want to leave us even then.
Miss Leyden left us yesterday
in her usual serene spirits, ready
to face anything with God’s help.
there continues
to be
from Miss O' Rourke
very good news
the Labour Ward + has brought two
She is in
babies into the world. She is
frightened of nothing now having
helped the St to bring a Morste
into the world. this was one
the sad things I felt so much when
nursing there.
Miss Nichols brother has a
to go to so she is anxious
- join as on the 15th August.
being a feast of Our Lady, I think
She will be a grand vocation +
think She will have another
following her soon All these things
are in Gods hands as we are
ourselves
Miss Moynaghs sister is with
us
she is a
she + Vincent Murray wait for a
school girl
great red yesterday morning
Father David is as wonderful
as ever although he is not too
will having come back with a heavy
cold. I often wonder what Glenstal
would be without him he is so
parsnest over all he does + see
things so cearly He I think regrets
us having to leave here but I
think agrees it is the only way
under the circumstances as they
getting the work erected
exist here_
I enclose also a copy of
Mons. Moynaghs better.
As I can do little till
Thear from you in reference to
Uniform + lists etc I am
trying to get things into order
possible get Sr John to
start the painting of Window
- mending of lead in roof we
were flooded again these last
few days
Yesterday I made 33 Ms Black
Currant jam + we hope to make
more
I am trying to make all
we cam for the College next year
As it is
so much cheaper them
Seeping.
I hope also to pressure
Rasiberries me bottles I asked
Fr. Hirpert this morning _
Just now Br. Magellas Father
has turned up also a Man
from Dublin about pipes to
see tr Winnose who is absent so
I shall get Fr John.
Must alise now to catch post
I am with you in all your sufferings
- know Our Lord will console you
send you all the help you need - make this place a great success
for His Glory it is the cross +
sacrifices we make + carry
muiled to His thal build up the
real foundations
your loving child for God
Marie Martin
Your Excellency,
the procedure for the formation and erection of M.M.M. which I am anxious
The sugestion and advice you gave me on Wednesday as regards
to follow, changesentirely the idea we had when we asked permission from
His Lordship the Bishop of Cork to settle in his diocese. Would it not
be wiser and more considerate towards His tordship to inform him at once
that we would like to withdraw our petition- I should be glad to know
whether you think this should be done at once and by whom.
Sacred Consresation of the Propasanda in His Emmances' letter to Dom Lebe
Ther is also the suggestion of the procedure suggested by the
The step we propose to take would be a departure from this. I should
be very grateful to you if you woudd advise me, as to the manner in whic
the S.C. of Propaganda should be informed of our new plans.
the intervention of Divine Providence in our regard, when a person who
You will be pleased to hear, that to-day I reccived a proof oR
rishes to remain ancnymous rans me up on the phone, to say that in two
years time a sum of 900 sould become available for the purpose of M.M.M
1 am returning to Glenstal this evening, the Rev. Prior is leav-
ing on Monday for Belgium on his return and when I have informed him and
All the subiects of M.M.M. as to our decision I will come up to Dublin an
will decuss all plans withn you, hoping for a continuance of your most Kr
Kind and valuable advice and guidance.
Letter is not dated, but the context suggests that it is a part of the correspondence from July 1936 regarding the approval of the society. Being between the 20th and 24th of that month.
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Your Excellency.
The prolonged silence of the Bishop here was a clear
Sign that he could not see his way to accede to Miss Martin's request.
I could not write you a definite answer for Miss Martin without apprcach-
ing his Loddship on the matter. The following is the reply he gives her.-
I. That a Diccesan religious Society starts without any Episcopal approvab
that it starts to meet some Diocesan need, that it works under super-
vision. that aoproval follows.
- That a religious institute which would have as its principal or lead-
purpose, The Maternity training of Nuns would, at present, offend the
mentality of the people. - That the most pressing need in Cork. from the Missicnary point of viem
is an anlargement of the building of the African Sisters, and a better
provision for the education, both literary and medical,- including
maternity, but so that the maternity training should not be two
empharised before the public.
I would have replied soener but I had to wait the pportun.
ity of m eting his Lordship.
Mith Kindest regards,
I remain
Your Excellexcys' respectful servanb
Fr. Domiic O. F. M.
ST. FRANCIS.
CORK.
Letter to "Eminenza Reverendissima". About missionaries in Nigeria.
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Encamnoo di iettera a S.Em. Card Fiumasopi Bionds 202 odOsy Eminenza Rewerendissima Da tanto tempo mi preme di ringraziare la Wostra Aminenza per 1a sua lettere del S Massie ripiena di tanta bontd ed irterease per 1'opera che mi sono ardito a ricommandarMe, e5 di utidi awvisi o sawvie direttive. In ispirito di profunds gratitudine e di ubbidienga a coteate diret. tive, abbiamo per ogoi mezzo cercato ove e come iniziare S'istituto Feligose dhe desideravamo,ip accordo colde etruzioni deiia s.C. di Propaganda. popo molte e lurghe trattatiwe, e con consiglio di S.EYc. 1d Murgie apostolice in pablino,ci s parso impossibile, nelde presen- t5 circonstanze di prindipiare colde dowute autorigzazioni ed appog. gio un Lstituto Diocesano ip Irlanda. Cosicche sembra che,per adesso, Sarebbe necessario per queste sigorine di ragscuparsi soMtanto da infirmiere laiche, apimate perd sempre dal medesimo desiderio di conse- crarsi, ip ispdrito religioso allopera medicale nelle Missiomi. Appe- ne saranno scientisicamente formate le prime,rispondende ald appeldo di Mons.Heerey per 1e sua Missione di Migeria,up siccolo drapeldo po Erebbe prendere cura dellddspedale che sid le asnette lassid. popo Qualchetempo, per risnondere pienamente alde Lstrugioni delda Santa se- de, chiedando daly detto Mons. la dovuta autorizzazione, nelda terra Stessa di Missione, originerebbero Mlstituo religiono diocesano,che S.Am. ci ha mostrato come id prime passo werso il compimento delldopena bramata,e di cui si s degata Henedire Mispirazione. chine al bacio dells Sacra Porpora,md professo
AI ASSISTED TRANSLATION
I am sending a letter to His Eminence Cardinal Fiumasopi Biondi 202 odOsy Most Reverend Eminence, I have long wanted to thank Your Eminence for your letter of May, filled with such kindness and interest for the work that I have dared to recommend to myself, and for useful advice and wise directives. In a spirit of profound gratitude and obedience to such directives, we have sought by every means where and how to start the religious institute we desired, in accordance with the instructions of the Sacred Congregation of Propaganda. After many and lengthy negotiations, and with the counsel of His Excellency the Apostolic Delegate in Dublin, it seemed impossible, under the present circumstances, to begin with the necessary authorizations and support a Diocesan Institute in Ireland. Thus, it seems that, for now, it would be necessary for these young women to group themselves only as lay nurses, always driven by the same desire to consecrate themselves, in a religious spirit, to medical work in the Missions. As soon as the first are scientifically trained, responding to the appeal of Mons. Heerey for his Mission in Nigeria, a small group could take care of the hospital that awaits them there. After some time, to fully respond to the instructions of the Holy See, by asking for the necessary authorization from the said Monsignor, in the very land of the Mission, they could establish a diocesan religious institute, which Your Eminence has shown us as the first step towards the fulfillment of the desired work, and which you have kindly blessed with inspiration. Bowing to the kiss of the Sacred Purple, I profess.
Letter from Anvers. No author. Handwritten, in french to Fr. Prior.
Cheque sent from Yorkshire insurance company. In reference to damage to clothes. Addressed to the Prior.
Letter from Maredsous (The Abbey from which Glenstal was founded). Relating to the debt of Glenstal.
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Mon Reverend et cher Pere, Ayant recu ces jours derniers le releve de compte ac nos clercs au Mont-Cesar, s'ai constate qu'on nous avait porte en compte les menas frais et la pension du Fr. Bermard de Glenstal pendant l'annee scolaire 1935a7936. J'ai cru bien faire, pour wous faciliter les operations, de payer directe- ments au MontCesar 1a somme de 3.464,60 trs dont je debite votre compte, Venillez trouver cisjoint 1greleve de compte de wos clercs et novices a Maredsons, d'avril 1955 a aodt 1956. Le montant s'eleve a la somme de 21.334,99, en y asone tant celui de l'annee precedente que vous n'avez pas encore Solde, votre debit chez nous se monte a 39.10t,89 FrS. 11 y a an an wous maviez demande a'attendre jusqa'a La fin de l'annee pour vous acquitter de votre dette, a cette echeance wous m'avez fait dire par le Pere Abbe que vous at tendiez des rentrees d'eleves, si Je ne me trompe. d'espere que cellesaci wous seront parvennes et que vous pourrez cette Jois nous faire parvenir le montant du releve cisjoint. Cela nous sonlagera grandement, car vous savez que nous avons dd, de notre cote, emprunter l'argent depense fef vos clercs et novices. Vous constaterez que sur ce frelever, ie vous ai porte en compte les disques, a 1a demande de Dom Paul. 11 est bien entendu que je suis toujours a wotre dise position pour vous fournir toutes les explications necessaires en vue de sustifier chacun des postes, une erreur peut se Blisser malgre la toute bonne volonte d'un chacun. Je regrette de ne devoir correspondre aveo wous que pour vous faire parvenir des rdouloureusesr, c'est 1a fatalite de la fonction du Cellerier. Cela niempeche pas celuici d'etre anime des sentiments tout sraternels a 1'egard de ses chers confreres de Glenstal.
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My Reverend and Dear Father, Having received the account statement regarding our clerics at Mont-César recently, I noticed that the board and tuition fees for Brother Bernard from Glenstal during the school year 1935-1936 were charged to us. To simplify matters for you, I thought it best to pay the sum of 3,464.60 francs directly to Mont-César, which I have debited from your account. Please find enclosed the account statement for our clerics and novices at Maredsous, from April 1955 to August 1956. The total amounts to 21,334.99 francs, including the previous year's amount that you have not yet settled. Your balance with us, therefore, amounts to 39,104.89 francs. About a year ago, you asked me to wait until the end of the year for you to settle your debt. At that time, the Father Abbot informed me that you were expecting income from students, if I am not mistaken. I hope that these funds have indeed materialized for you and that you can send us the amount from the enclosed statement this time. This would greatly ease our situation, as you know, we have had to borrow money on our side for your clerics and novices. You will notice that on this statement, at Dom Paul's request, I have also included the records. Please know that I am always at your disposal to provide you with any necessary explanations to justify each item; an error can creep in despite everyone's best intentions. I regret that my correspondence with you is limited to sending you these "painful" reminders, as it seems to be the fate of the bursar's role. Nevertheless, I remain filled with fraternal sentiments towards my dear brothers at Glenstal.
Illness of Columba. Letter of Mary Martin to Father Prior.
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caritas
Dear Father Prior
Many thanks for your card
I am very grieved to hear Dom
Columba is so seriously ill I hope
he is not suffering too much I
joined you all this morning in
the Novena to Abbot Columba + shall
offer Mass + Holy Communion each morning
for his recovery if it is for Gods
greater Glory this may interfere
with your little trys to Dublin
which will not disappoint me I know
your interest as everything + God is
watching over as all + the Works
Sunday
I hope at else goes well Miss OR.
will go down by 9.3o am train
to.morrow Monday I think you will
find she understands how you wish
their obedience to be during my
absence.
For the present I think 5:30 is
early enough for Miss L + O' R to
rise They will have time to make
their morning prayer + 1/2 hour meditation
before Mass unless they have domestic
duties to do before if so they can
aarrange these matters with you
and you will give Miss O'R. a
table of her domestic works
Owing to the conditions of
my health, I have not been able
will you explain please to them
to write much to the staff a matron
My heart muscles are very weak
after the poisoning + long tie trying
to get up so as to get the air takes
all the energy I have but
gradually this will improve
It there is anything we can do for
you in Dublin or for F. C please
do not hesitate to let me know
My brothers wedding will be on
tnesday next they are all very
busy preparing for the great day.
It is strange how I should be at
home for it but unable to be
present_ the Dr considers it
would he too much for me I
am really glad as it would have
been a very great strain to me +
night only delay my cure which is
Slow enough as it is Please remember
them in your prayer on that day
I shall write during the week
to our Religious Superior how I
wish I were fit enough to start off
with Miss O' R on Monday evendentl
Our Lord wishes to try my patience
- to leach me many more lesson as
an invalide I have a good deal
of physical suffering lately Dom Col
Shall have a share in this as well as
my prayers
when you are busy as you must be
now I never expect a letter from
you uat can talk over all when
we next meet_
your obedient child for God.
St Mary
Caritas .
My dear Father
card this morning but disappointed to
Iwas pleased to receive your
hear you did not see the tailor
time is going on + little done O
fear.
Yesterday Wednesday I saw His Excellen
He adked for you + said he was
glad you were writing to His Eminence
The Cardinal S.P. de 7. Ithink it would
e well to send on the letter to
His Excellency as soon as possible.
He has advised me to rent a house
for the 1st year Ishall do +
have a applied for lists of houses
to rent. He thought the financial
burden would be to great on the
house we thought so suitable.
after this I met Dom David
he looks well + as good + active
as ever in his heart + mind
from there Iwent to the
[1936]
Greenbank
Monkstown
Thursday
the afternoon for the college _
Will you try to see Miss M. Hayes
the boys liked her
Unfortunately Imissed Ms Duff
St Baptist again.
bring to the account of work
for sometimes as Imust start off
again looking for a house torent.
I think it will be a great relief
to you when all the visitors go so as
to have time for all the things you have to
Have you arranged anything about the
lavatories? The sweep? I have severals
times reminded Fr. John nothing done
They will make pillows outof
Please remember me to my children +
thank them for this letter+ poetry- Ask
Miss Murphy to send glasses ago to me
I pray much for you. may God
strengthen +guide you in all things
We must both work hard in union
Very nice for a college tie the one
without the writing marked with x is my
choice also Mother. You can have them
green with grey strips or grey with green
strip.
Switzers is also sending you patterns
of grey Flannel for Blazers with a
green binding + the estimate.
2) Clerys. They are sending patterns
or suits + sketch. also grey flannel
for Blazers + Caps. Pullovers
weeks time about. Foot. Tall Jerseys
Pants Gym costumes etc. Ithought this
the most satisfactory for you
They will also send the patterns
Ihope you will be able to come to
a definite decision soon any how O
we can add in in ink_
Letter thanking Prior for Mass he said for her, and discussing various other topics.
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Caritas
96 Lr Leeson St
Dublin
Dear Father Prior
How am I to thank
you for saying Mass for me
- also asking +- Davidx
this gift is infinite oh if
I were only worthy ff all the
love + generosity you all have
shown me since I went
to Glenstal. Allowing me
to help in a very small
way in Glenstal I always
regard as a very great
privilege + now to be allowed
in Gods loving Providence to
suffer a little with Him for
His Fathers Glory leaves me in
a greater ditth thanever. I
may honestly, say there is
absolutely no reason for you
to feel any remorse if
there could be any fault it is
all on my side but really
I believed it is all in Gods
plan for my sanctification
His future Work + s think
also for Glenstal in a more
perhaps humble + hidden
way All I regret is the
inconvenience + extra work
I have been the cause of
laying on your shoulders +
for leaving
things in such
disorder
I feel very much for you
with your further cross +
anxiety over Rose I shall
pray much for hhr quick
I fear Mr O' Reilty will be
disappointed these things cannot
be helped + I thank you
very much for all the
trouble you have taken
I asked my brother to telephone
at once as S. O' Reilly
called in yesterday hoping
to meet Dom David who
would perhaps have good
news for them_ I am very
sorry it did not suit your
niece as it is a lovely
home + a real catholic
family.
I sucerely hope
Mc thorpes will her
better.
I know Mr Byme
well he is one of the
best know Architects in
Dublin a personal friend
our family.
theso circumstances I may grow
in greater love + union with God
My great difficulty is to over
come a terrible natural
dread I have of anaesthetics
but God gave me courage - great grace last time
He will not refuse me
again I know.
I am delighted to hear
about the Statue of Our Lady
being finished + in the Chapel
at must look very well
with Our holy Father St. Benedict - what a blessing that united
prayer of the whole of Glenstal
at Our Ladys
feet must
do for the individual souls
the monastery + school..
shall be with you all in spirit.
Sister Baptist knows Mr Thorpe
if you wish you could write
to her for any particulars.
I am glad to hear Lizzie
was able to get away to see
her Aunt I hope she
continues to give satisfaction
Will you please explain to
them, if they do not hear
from me for the next we
it is that they wish me
to rest more + shall not
be allow
to write much
after the operation for some
days I shall drop you
a line
you can give them
all the new. Tell them
I count
on their united
prayer_.
your English in improving
greatly I suppose you have
no difficulty in spanking
now at all.
Will you please remember me
to Dom Columba + say how
sorry I was to hear he had
to have all his teeth out
Also please remember me to
all the Fathers teachers boys - staff.
I had a very nice letter +
picture from Dom Gerard.
I shall drop him a line _
With all good wishes
grateful thanks for everything
in prayer.
your obedient child
in Jesus + Mary.
Sr Mary