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Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy of answer from Sacred Congregation of Propaganda, Rome, to Bishop McAllister. Says it
was necessary for them to consult with Passionists. This being done, they now suggest that the bishop build the church with the assistance of the rector, ownership of the church to belong to the diocese, use of it to belong to the Passionists as long as they are there; with all the details of the Constitution Romanus Pontifices being observed. The bishop to decide on the site, but congregation suggests the one near the retreat becuse of easier access, the fact that the Passioinist are donating the site and helping with the building. For translation of this document see item under serial number 1988.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General to Fr Provincial, Highgate.
Has just told Fr Arthur re conference with Card Simeone. Thinks that Provincial should accept Cardinal's solution. If Fr Anthony comes to London for dedication of new church, a formula could be worked out embodying the two CP conditions, this then could go to Vice General for aspproval.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAlister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan in answer to his letter of 32 January (see item under serial number 1959). The privileges claimed by Vincent are those of "ORDERS". Passionists are only a congregation. By Vincent's commands the Passionists have broken diocesan regulations in claiming to be able to send as many priests as the provincial thinks fit. The Passionists came 19 years before of their own option, entered into an agreement and kept it until Vincent broke it without the consent of the other party. He mentions the scandal caused by an errant Passionist. The present disagreement has arisen from Vincent's actions so bishop refuses to accede to his demands.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAllister to Fr. Vincent Grogan, Provincial, in reply to his letter of 24 February (see copy located under serial number 1965. , Says Vincent started this row by threatening to appeal to the Holy See in his very first letter and has repeated this in every letter since. So incorrest to say that bishop obliged him to go to Holy See. Passionists came to Down and Connor of their own free will and have accepted the position for 19 years. Vincent appears blind to the intersts of the Diocese. Bishop would need authenticated certificate of Passionists having privileges of Regulars (Orders).

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: letter from the Superior of Ardoyne, Fr. Anthony O'Carroll, to the Provincial, Highgate, explaining why no Passionist was at the conference of the clergy (held in the Diocese?). All were occupied and he had informed the Bishop - Bishop's reply enclosed. (NB. This reply is not attached). Anthony thinks we could not agree to the Bishop's ideas and explains why. Suggests that Provincial brings a canonist with him when he meets the Bishop. Best be prepared with facts as to what our priveileges are. If any men are presented for faculties exams, they had better be good. Anthony thinks we should act now.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Fr. Thomas, Consultor General, to Provincial, Vincent Grogan. Letter from Propaganda on way to bishop advising that he should settle dispute. He should not refuse faculties to Passionists put up by their superiors unless for canonical reasons. Other religious in Ireland were complaining about similar treatment., so the same advice was given to other bishops. Vincent to keep this information "under his hat". Thomas understands congregation wants this matter settled. (He also mentions that he is glad Vincent has escaped the danger from Kildare - i.e., of being made Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin, Copy of this reference is also located at 3/3/5/2 serial no. 6475)

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter (prpbably a draft) from Fr. Vincent Grogan, Provincial, to Bishop McAllister in reply to his previous correspondence. Vincent quotes extensively from Compendium Facultatum C.P., (1882) re our enjoying the privileges of regulars. He also quotes from de Aedificis and de Elecmonia. He repeats that the Belfast foundation was done in accordance with the canons and with the consent of the bishop. Denies that appeal to Holy See is a threat. Goes on to deal with the refusal of confessonal faculties. No formal appeal has yet been lodged. Passionist still willing to settle.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Consultor General, Thomas, Rome,to Arthur Devine:He writes about Fr. Edmund's faculties and enquires if Arthur knows anything abour Fr. Bede, a Canon Regular, who has requested faculties to bless Passionist Chaplet and Scapulars. Refers to Tablet review of Arthurt;s "Convent Life". Suggests that Arthur prepare a 2nd edition for the USA and also arrange for the publication of some of Blessed Dominic's writings..
Concerning Ardoyne, Thomas has seen (keep this under your hat) the Bishop's letter to Propaganda. He wants to build a church on the C.P. site. Cardinal, after some explanation, said that according to the new Bull, Romani Pontifices, the church would be our property, if built with the money of our Congregation, but, if built with the oblations of the faithful, it would belong to the Diocese, unless Bishop gives title to us. The letter contains some conditions, which if conceeded by the BIshop, would secure for us all we wanted.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter from the Provincial to Bishop McAllister in reply to his letter of 13 September re Passionists attending conferences of clergy and to building of new church. Provincial mentions that Fr. Anthony's reference, at the conference dinner, to the bazaar would not have been made had Anthony been aware that such reference would have been disagreeable to the Bishop. The Provincial goes on to point out that he can't maintain a proper religious community in Ardoyne if priests are refused faculties. Regrets Bishop refers to a case where now the offender has been punished.

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