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Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter (prpbably a draft) from Fr. Vincent Grogan, Provincial, to Bishop McAllister in reply to his previous correspondence. Vincent quotes extensively from Compendium Facultatum C.P., (1882) re our enjoying the privileges of regulars. He also quotes from de Aedificis and de Elecmonia. He repeats that the Belfast foundation was done in accordance with the canons and with the consent of the bishop. Denies that appeal to Holy See is a threat. Goes on to deal with the refusal of confessonal faculties. No formal appeal has yet been lodged. Passionist still willing to settle.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Fr, Thomas, Consultor-General, Sts. John and Paul, Rome. to Fr, Arthur Devine. Acknowledges Arthur's letter of 20 April (copy not to hand at time of computerisation) with copy of Bishop McAllister's letter (see item under serial number 1969), He is not pleased with tone of that letter. Propaganda is to try and settle the matter. Arthur's points will probably be of value to Propaganda. Guesses the bishop has spoken to Walsh of Dublin. .

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Fr. Thomas, Consultor General, to Provincial, Vincent Grogan. Letter from Propaganda on way to bishop advising that he should settle dispute. He should not refuse faculties to Passionists put up by their superiors unless for canonical reasons. Other religious in Ireland were complaining about similar treatment., so the same advice was given to other bishops. Vincent to keep this information "under his hat". Thomas understands congregation wants this matter settled. (He also mentions that he is glad Vincent has escaped the danger from Kildare - i.e., of being made Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin, Copy of this reference is also located at 3/3/5/2 serial no. 6475)

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy (draft) letter from Provincial to Bishop McAllister (has a note, "changed a little by Provincial and sent on 20 June). Refers to wish of Sacred Congregation that parties meet and settle matter amicably. Says he mentioned all the restrictions to the Sacred Congregation and that he wishes them all to be matters for settlement so as to avoid future rows. Would like a personal meeting. He would like any arrangement come to to be in writing. He would also like the two men recently ordained by the bishop to have faculties so as to be available for missions. He, therefore, formally presents Frs. Kevin and Ambrose.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Dr. McAllister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, in reply to his of 20th (see item located under serial number 1976), He rigidly rejects Vincent's offer on the grounds that the matter is now before Propaganda. Doubts Vincent's adherence to any private arrangement. Glad Propaganda is dealing with the matter. Its decision will be final.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter to Arthur Devine from the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. He asks for copy of the agreement between Eugen Martorelli and Bishop Dorian, together with articles subscribed to by some early rectors of Ardoyne. Wants them for translation into Italian. Is aware that Sacred Congregation is loath to irritate the bishop. They are cautious because of some rescript received from Holy Office.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: 1874002 Hilary Mara

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Hilary Mara: Letter to the Provincial from the Consultor General, Thoms, Rome. Has written and wired to Hilary that permission has been obtained for him to celebrate mass on board ship (on voyage to Australia?).
Bishop McAllister has got the Propaganda letter, but is on visitation at the moment and has not scrutinised it completely. He claims some of the Passionists allegations are untrue. Propaganda has told Thomas that there is no law compelling a bishop to give faculties to all religious in a community, but he cannot refuse faculties to all either. He can use his discretion as to how many faculties he gives.. The Dominicans have come up against this problem also (and that seems to have been the decison given?). Can't expect new law just for C.Ps.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy of answer from Sacred Congregation of Propaganda, Rome, to Bishop McAllister. Says it
was necessary for them to consult with Passionists. This being done, they now suggest that the bishop build the church with the assistance of the rector, ownership of the church to belong to the diocese, use of it to belong to the Passionists as long as they are there; with all the details of the Constitution Romanus Pontifices being observed. The bishop to decide on the site, but congregation suggests the one near the retreat becuse of easier access, the fact that the Passioinist are donating the site and helping with the building. For translation of this document see item under serial number 1988.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter to Provincial from the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. Not such good news. Pope unwilling to force bishop. Msgr, Jacobini says nothig can be done. Has Arthur (Devine?) any suggestions? Should Thomas come to Ireland? The letter breaks off here. (Other pages not to hand?) .

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