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Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy of answer from Sacred Congregation of Propaganda, Rome, to Bishop McAllister. Says it
was necessary for them to consult with Passionists. This being done, they now suggest that the bishop build the church with the assistance of the rector, ownership of the church to belong to the diocese, use of it to belong to the Passionists as long as they are there; with all the details of the Constitution Romanus Pontifices being observed. The bishop to decide on the site, but congregation suggests the one near the retreat becuse of easier access, the fact that the Passioinist are donating the site and helping with the building. For translation of this document see item under serial number 1988.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Dispute with Bishop McAllister.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General to Fr Provincial, Highgate.
Has just told Fr Arthur re conference with Card Simeone. Thinks that Provincial should accept Cardinal's solution. If Fr Anthony comes to London for dedication of new church, a formula could be worked out embodying the two CP conditions, this then could go to Vice General for aspproval.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne: Belfast,: a report to the Provincial, Fr. Alphonsus O'Neill on Fr. Raphael's agreement of 25 September, 1868 - five heads of agreement. Reporter also quotes from Administration Year that the date of the arrival of the Passionists in Belfast was 3 August, 1868. [N.B. This particular item is attached to a later item, which quotes from it.]

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter from Arthur Devine to the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. Thinks ruling re faculties from Propaganda (referred to by Thoms in his letter of 14inst - see item located under serial number 1981)) is mistaken and quotes from an approved author to back him up. Is his interpretation wrong? He needs to know as it is important for him and his students. English, Scots and most of Irish bishops think what Arthur thinks. He would like a copy of the ruling which was given to the Dominicans in this metter, as he is making a file on this case.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: 1866025 Arthur Devine

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Arthur Devine: Letter to Arthur Devine from the Consultor General, Thoms, Rome. Informs Arthur that the bishop has aked Propaganda for a copy of the charges against him. Thomas offered to translate into English for transmission to the bishop the paper he (Thomas) had presented to Propaganda. Permission was given and also that he might make any modification he thought fit. Encloses a copy (which was not to hand at date of computerisation). Comments in the document are deliberatly mild in the hope that the bishop will give in good-naturedly.

He mentions that the provincial will have alrady shown to Arthur the General's reasons for not agreeing to Arthur's proposed translation to Australia, namely that robust health is required for that country.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter (copy or draft?) from Arthur Devine to the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. Encloses copy of bishop's letter of 22nd (see item located under serial number 1977). Doesn't see any use. Letter to sarcastic. Why doesn't bishop produce contract, if it exists? Why no rererence to request for faculties for the 2 young priests? (see item under serial number 1976). It would be a good idea for Sacred Congregation to ask to see the contract. Under direction from the provincial, Arthur will draw up a document for the Sacred Congregation.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAllister to the Provincial. He informs Vincent that the Diocesan Bazaar and the rebuilding of Ardoyne Church can't be done together without injury to both projects. Futrthermore both Ardoyne and Ligoniel, whilst administered by the Passionists, are a mensal parish. Hence, since the church is to be the church of the secular mission, a new . church must be approved by the bishop. He is not prepared to give such permission at the moment. He will give it when circustances permit.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister::

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: MS (again beautiful script.) of Italian version of Fr Alphonus O'Neill's (Provincial of St Joseph's Province) petition to Cardinal ?: (contains the phrase "Irlanda del Nord") Presents the case for a CP Church at Ardoyne.

2nd Copy in different hand (Again a very nice script) BUT with Statistics of DUBLIN, BELFAST, ARMAGH to back a point made.

3rd Copy: slightly different word and uses the statistics.

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