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Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Dr. McAllister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, in reply to his of 20th (see item located under serial number 1976), He rigidly rejects Vincent's offer on the grounds that the matter is now before Propaganda. Doubts Vincent's adherence to any private arrangement. Glad Propaganda is dealing with the matter. Its decision will be final.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Copies of 2 letters, which, though they are included in the "Dispute" arrangement, may not be quite relevant to that heading. (1) 22.11.1887, probably to the Rector, in which the Bishop grants his consent for the giving of the Apostolic Blessing at the principal mass on Sunday 27 inst: (2) 23.11.1887 from Rector to Fr. McGaskin (the bishop's man of affairs) giving details of the "Missae Pro Populo" celebrated at Holy Cross. At Ligoneil they are said "in caritate" in accordance with our Rules and Constitutions.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Foolscap sheets containng copy of Fr. Vincent Grogan's reply to Bishop McAllisiter's letter of 6 February (se item under serial number 1964). He gives notice of appeal to the Holy See. Gives 3 reasons why Passionists have privileges. All previous provincials, still living, agree with Vincent's statements. He rejects reference to scandalous behaviour (then cancels this out). Arthur Devine appends a note declaring that this is an exact copy of the letter sent to the Bishop..

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Letter from Fr. Thomas, Consultor General to Arthur Devine. Little to report. Propaganda had advised seeing bishop then in Rome, but he had gone too soon to see him. Thomas had found that Cardinal Simoni's secretary had done nothing but he (Secretary) believes the proposed meeting with bishop will settle matters. Thomas also thinks the bishop's last letter shows that finance is at the botom of the row. Bishop's limiting number of Passionists to those required for parish is indefensible.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter from the Provincial to Bishop McAllister in reply to his letter of 13 September re Passionists attending conferences of clergy and to building of new church. Provincial mentions that Fr. Anthony's reference, at the conference dinner, to the bazaar would not have been made had Anthony been aware that such reference would have been disagreeable to the Bishop. The Provincial goes on to point out that he can't maintain a proper religious community in Ardoyne if priests are refused faculties. Regrets Bishop refers to a case where now the offender has been punished.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy(?) letter rrom Bishop McAllister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, in reply to his of 09.03.1888 (see item under serial number 1968). He was not going to answer that letter. Says he asked for a catalogue of the privileges of the Passionists so that he could compare it with the agreement reached between them and his predecessor. Complains that unsigned letters in the press and a complaint made privately to Rome were hostile acts towards him. Repeats that Vincent bagan the row. Justifies his refusal to allow increase in the number of priest with faculties. Insists on maintaining the original agreement between the Passionists and his predecessor.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter to Arthur Devine from the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome, with reference to his letter of 14 inst. and alleged ruling from Propoganda to Dominicans re bishop's powers to grant faculties to religious (see item under serial number 1981). That is not the position. Dominican's have made a submision with that conclusion to Propaganda, but that congregation doesn't want to annoy Irish bishops, so no ruling has ben given. It is said that Bishop McAllister will meet the provincial before answering Propaganda on Passionists' submission. Thomas hopes to see Cardinal (Prefect?) and read him Arthur's letter re crying need for more confessors. Even if there was a clear cut law, it could be evaded.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from the Rector of Ardoyne, Fr. Anthony Caroll to Fr. Arthur (Devine) Highgate. (Reference to death of Fr. Stephen, 10 days before, suggests the date on this letter which actually is undatd). He hopes Arthur is preparing "a stinger" of a brief about the case, Suggests that when Arthur is in Rome he should see the Generals of the Jesuits, Dominicans and Augustinians. Uses quite warlike metaphors. Bishop was at Stephen's funeral but did not set foot inside the house, Refers to bishop's ideas about us not being an order and that we are not in fact approved but only tolerated by the Church. Suggests Arthur throws a papal bull or two at him. Gives news of arrivals "de familia", Quotes returns to bishop of Easter comuninions etc., for Ardoyne and Ligoneil, which are formidable, as well as the work of several religious socities, yet we have only 4 men with faculties,

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Fr, Thomas, Consultor-General, Sts. John and Paul, Rome. to Fr, Arthur Devine. Acknowledges Arthur's letter of 20 April (copy not to hand at time of computerisation) with copy of Bishop McAllister's letter (see item under serial number 1969), He is not pleased with tone of that letter. Propaganda is to try and settle the matter. Arthur's points will probably be of value to Propaganda. Guesses the bishop has spoken to Walsh of Dublin. .

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter to Arthur Devine from the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. He asks for copy of the agreement between Eugen Martorelli and Bishop Dorian, together with articles subscribed to by some early rectors of Ardoyne. Wants them for translation into Italian. Is aware that Sacred Congregation is loath to irritate the bishop. They are cautious because of some rescript received from Holy Office.

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