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Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Dispute with Bishop McAllister.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General to Fr Provincial, Highgate.
Has just told Fr Arthur re conference with Card Simeone. Thinks that Provincial should accept Cardinal's solution. If Fr Anthony comes to London for dedication of new church, a formula could be worked out embodying the two CP conditions, this then could go to Vice General for aspproval.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Dispute with Bishop McAllister: 1866025 Arthur Devine: 1815005

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Consultor General, Thomas, Rome,to Arthur Devine:He writes about Fr. Edmund's faculties and enquires if Arthur knows anything abour Fr. Bede, a Canon Regular, who has requested faculties to bless Passionist Chaplet and Scapulars. Refers to Tablet review of Arthurt;s "Convent Life". Suggests that Arthur prepare a 2nd edition for the USA and also arrange for the publication of some of Blessed Dominic's writings..
Concerning Ardoyne, Thomas has seen (keep this under your hat) the Bishop's letter to Propaganda. He wants to build a church on the C.P. site. Cardinal, after some explanation, said that according to the new Bull, Romani Pontifices, the church would be our property, if built with the money of our Congregation, but, if built with the oblations of the faithful, it would belong to the Diocese, unless Bishop gives title to us. The letter contains some conditions, which if conceeded by the BIshop, would secure for us all we wanted.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne: Belfast,: a report to the Provincial, Fr. Alphonsus O'Neill on Fr. Raphael's agreement of 25 September, 1868 - five heads of agreement. Reporter also quotes from Administration Year that the date of the arrival of the Passionists in Belfast was 3 August, 1868. [N.B. This particular item is attached to a later item, which quotes from it.]

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: What seems to be a draft of a communication from the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, to Bishop McAllister. Acknowledges letter dated 13 January and refers to his own previous letter (neither of which are to hand at time of computerisation). He wishes to reorganise Belfast Passioists as a religious community with all their rights and privileges. Enlarges on this. Deals with matters raised by the bishop concerning the new church and his apparent annoyance at remarks made by some Passionists in the matter. He also deals with the bishop's further references to an erring Passionist.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy (draft) letter from Provincial to Bishop McAllister (has a note, "changed a little by Provincial and sent on 20 June). Refers to wish of Sacred Congregation that parties meet and settle matter amicably. Says he mentioned all the restrictions to the Sacred Congregation and that he wishes them all to be matters for settlement so as to avoid future rows. Would like a personal meeting. He would like any arrangement come to to be in writing. He would also like the two men recently ordained by the bishop to have faculties so as to be available for missions. He, therefore, formally presents Frs. Kevin and Ambrose.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter from Arthur Devine to the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. Thinks ruling re faculties from Propaganda (referred to by Thoms in his letter of 14inst - see item located under serial number 1981)) is mistaken and quotes from an approved author to back him up. Is his interpretation wrong? He needs to know as it is important for him and his students. English, Scots and most of Irish bishops think what Arthur thinks. He would like a copy of the ruling which was given to the Dominicans in this metter, as he is making a file on this case.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter (copy or draft?) from Arthur Devine to the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. Encloses copy of bishop's letter of 22nd (see item located under serial number 1977). Doesn't see any use. Letter to sarcastic. Why doesn't bishop produce contract, if it exists? Why no rererence to request for faculties for the 2 young priests? (see item under serial number 1976). It would be a good idea for Sacred Congregation to ask to see the contract. Under direction from the provincial, Arthur will draw up a document for the Sacred Congregation.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAllister to the Provincial. He informs Vincent that the Diocesan Bazaar and the rebuilding of Ardoyne Church can't be done together without injury to both projects. Futrthermore both Ardoyne and Ligoniel, whilst administered by the Passionists, are a mensal parish. Hence, since the church is to be the church of the secular mission, a new . church must be approved by the bishop. He is not prepared to give such permission at the moment. He will give it when circustances permit.

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