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Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister;

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister. Document from Provincial Vincent Grogan, to H.E. Card Simeoni, Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Propoganda. It is the first draft of petition for permission to build the church at Ardoyne at CP expense. This is the document referred to in letter located under serial number 1992, and contains the addition drafted by Fr. Thomas, Consultor General.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister::

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: (parts seem to be missing) The Passionists to Cardinal Simeoni, Prefect Congregation of Propaganda, They beg permission to build a church in Ardoyne. Includes, as a quote, a letter from the bishop in reply to one from the Provincial dated 23 of same month.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Questing:

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Questing: Letter from Fr Anthony O'Carroll, Rector, Ardoyne, to Fr. Wilfred (O'Hagan?) then in Rome. Anthony has read to the Community, Wilfred's letter re settlement of the church problem. (This letter seems to have been good news However, as the letter was not extant at time of computerisation of this archive, details of it are not known). Encloses copy of Bro. Edward's Questing letter ( copy not to hand either at time of computerisation)..

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Dispute with Bishop McAllister.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General to Fr Provincial, Highgate.
Has just told Fr Arthur re conference with Card Simeone. Thinks that Provincial should accept Cardinal's solution. If Fr Anthony comes to London for dedication of new church, a formula could be worked out embodying the two CP conditions, this then could go to Vice General for aspproval.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Dispute with Bishop McAllister: 1866025 Arthur Devine: 1815005

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Consultor General, Thomas, Rome,to Arthur Devine:He writes about Fr. Edmund's faculties and enquires if Arthur knows anything abour Fr. Bede, a Canon Regular, who has requested faculties to bless Passionist Chaplet and Scapulars. Refers to Tablet review of Arthurt;s "Convent Life". Suggests that Arthur prepare a 2nd edition for the USA and also arrange for the publication of some of Blessed Dominic's writings..
Concerning Ardoyne, Thomas has seen (keep this under your hat) the Bishop's letter to Propaganda. He wants to build a church on the C.P. site. Cardinal, after some explanation, said that according to the new Bull, Romani Pontifices, the church would be our property, if built with the money of our Congregation, but, if built with the oblations of the faithful, it would belong to the Diocese, unless Bishop gives title to us. The letter contains some conditions, which if conceeded by the BIshop, would secure for us all we wanted.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne: Belfast,: a report to the Provincial, Fr. Alphonsus O'Neill on Fr. Raphael's agreement of 25 September, 1868 - five heads of agreement. Reporter also quotes from Administration Year that the date of the arrival of the Passionists in Belfast was 3 August, 1868. [N.B. This particular item is attached to a later item, which quotes from it.]

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: What seems to be a draft of a communication from the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, to Bishop McAllister. Acknowledges letter dated 13 January and refers to his own previous letter (neither of which are to hand at time of computerisation). He wishes to reorganise Belfast Passioists as a religious community with all their rights and privileges. Enlarges on this. Deals with matters raised by the bishop concerning the new church and his apparent annoyance at remarks made by some Passionists in the matter. He also deals with the bishop's further references to an erring Passionist.

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