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Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Fr. Thomas, Consultor General, to Provincial, Vincent Grogan. Letter from Propaganda on way to bishop advising that he should settle dispute. He should not refuse faculties to Passionists put up by their superiors unless for canonical reasons. Other religious in Ireland were complaining about similar treatment., so the same advice was given to other bishops. Vincent to keep this information "under his hat". Thomas understands congregation wants this matter settled. (He also mentions that he is glad Vincent has escaped the danger from Kildare - i.e., of being made Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin, Copy of this reference is also located at 3/3/5/2 serial no. 6475)

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter (prpbably a draft) from Fr. Vincent Grogan, Provincial, to Bishop McAllister in reply to his previous correspondence. Vincent quotes extensively from Compendium Facultatum C.P., (1882) re our enjoying the privileges of regulars. He also quotes from de Aedificis and de Elecmonia. He repeats that the Belfast foundation was done in accordance with the canons and with the consent of the bishop. Denies that appeal to Holy See is a threat. Goes on to deal with the refusal of confessonal faculties. No formal appeal has yet been lodged. Passionist still willing to settle.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy letter from the Provincial to Bishop McAllister in reply to his letter of 13 September re Passionists attending conferences of clergy and to building of new church. Provincial mentions that Fr. Anthony's reference, at the conference dinner, to the bazaar would not have been made had Anthony been aware that such reference would have been disagreeable to the Bishop. The Provincial goes on to point out that he can't maintain a proper religious community in Ardoyne if priests are refused faculties. Regrets Bishop refers to a case where now the offender has been punished.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy(?) letter rrom Bishop McAllister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, in reply to his of 09.03.1888 (see item under serial number 1968). He was not going to answer that letter. Says he asked for a catalogue of the privileges of the Passionists so that he could compare it with the agreement reached between them and his predecessor. Complains that unsigned letters in the press and a complaint made privately to Rome were hostile acts towards him. Repeats that Vincent bagan the row. Justifies his refusal to allow increase in the number of priest with faculties. Insists on maintaining the original agreement between the Passionists and his predecessor.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter to Arthur Devine from the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome, with reference to his letter of 14 inst. and alleged ruling from Propoganda to Dominicans re bishop's powers to grant faculties to religious (see item under serial number 1981). That is not the position. Dominican's have made a submision with that conclusion to Propaganda, but that congregation doesn't want to annoy Irish bishops, so no ruling has ben given. It is said that Bishop McAllister will meet the provincial before answering Propaganda on Passionists' submission. Thomas hopes to see Cardinal (Prefect?) and read him Arthur's letter re crying need for more confessors. Even if there was a clear cut law, it could be evaded.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne: Belfast,: a report to the Provincial, Fr. Alphonsus O'Neill on Fr. Raphael's agreement of 25 September, 1868 - five heads of agreement. Reporter also quotes from Administration Year that the date of the arrival of the Passionists in Belfast was 3 August, 1868. [N.B. This particular item is attached to a later item, which quotes from it.]

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Consultor General, Thomas, Rome,to Arthur Devine:He writes about Fr. Edmund's faculties and enquires if Arthur knows anything abour Fr. Bede, a Canon Regular, who has requested faculties to bless Passionist Chaplet and Scapulars. Refers to Tablet review of Arthurt;s "Convent Life". Suggests that Arthur prepare a 2nd edition for the USA and also arrange for the publication of some of Blessed Dominic's writings..
Concerning Ardoyne, Thomas has seen (keep this under your hat) the Bishop's letter to Propaganda. He wants to build a church on the C.P. site. Cardinal, after some explanation, said that according to the new Bull, Romani Pontifices, the church would be our property, if built with the money of our Congregation, but, if built with the oblations of the faithful, it would belong to the Diocese, unless Bishop gives title to us. The letter contains some conditions, which if conceeded by the BIshop, would secure for us all we wanted.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General to Fr Provincial, Highgate.
Has just told Fr Arthur re conference with Card Simeone. Thinks that Provincial should accept Cardinal's solution. If Fr Anthony comes to London for dedication of new church, a formula could be worked out embodying the two CP conditions, this then could go to Vice General for aspproval.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Questing: Letter from Fr Anthony O'Carroll, Rector, Ardoyne, to Fr. Wilfred (O'Hagan?) then in Rome. Anthony has read to the Community, Wilfred's letter re settlement of the church problem. (This letter seems to have been good news However, as the letter was not extant at time of computerisation of this archive, details of it are not known). Encloses copy of Bro. Edward's Questing letter ( copy not to hand either at time of computerisation)..

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister. Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General, Rome, to Fr Arthur Devine, Highgate, London, acknowledging Arthur's of 23rd Nov. (copy of that letter is not extant in these archives). It's tone dishearten 's Thomas. We have to make some concessions, otherwise Bishop has stolen a march on us.
Fact we bought and paid for site is important, but if church is built on it we can't sell it or till it or ground-rent it. Also the reference to Bishop Dorrian slipping in his signature as a trustee could have been put better. Even if we won a case, the Sacred Congregation would not enforce it.