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Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAlister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan in answer to his letter of 32 January (see item under serial number 1959). The privileges claimed by Vincent are those of "ORDERS". Passionists are only a congregation. By Vincent's commands the Passionists have broken diocesan regulations in claiming to be able to send as many priests as the provincial thinks fit. The Passionists came 19 years before of their own option, entered into an agreement and kept it until Vincent broke it without the consent of the other party. He mentions the scandal caused by an errant Passionist. The present disagreement has arisen from Vincent's actions so bishop refuses to accede to his demands.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAllister to Fr. Vincent Grogan, Provincial, in reply to his letter of 24 February (see copy located under serial number 1965. , Says Vincent started this row by threatening to appeal to the Holy See in his very first letter and has repeated this in every letter since. So incorrest to say that bishop obliged him to go to Holy See. Passionists came to Down and Connor of their own free will and have accepted the position for 19 years. Vincent appears blind to the intersts of the Diocese. Bishop would need authenticated certificate of Passionists having privileges of Regulars (Orders).

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister::

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: MS (again beautiful script.) of Italian version of Fr Alphonus O'Neill's (Provincial of St Joseph's Province) petition to Cardinal ?: (contains the phrase "Irlanda del Nord") Presents the case for a CP Church at Ardoyne.

2nd Copy in different hand (Again a very nice script) BUT with Statistics of DUBLIN, BELFAST, ARMAGH to back a point made.

3rd Copy: slightly different word and uses the statistics.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Wareham:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Wareham: Letter to the Provincial from the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. Acknowledges several provincial's letters. General is away. Thanks for favourable report on Province. Glad to hear there is prospect of getting £1,000 for Wareham. Thomas doesn't know if he will go to Belfast. Consulta will decide on that after Christmas.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Dr. McAllister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, in reply to his of 20th (see item located under serial number 1976), He rigidly rejects Vincent's offer on the grounds that the matter is now before Propaganda. Doubts Vincent's adherence to any private arrangement. Glad Propaganda is dealing with the matter. Its decision will be final.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Copies of 2 letters, which, though they are included in the "Dispute" arrangement, may not be quite relevant to that heading. (1) 22.11.1887, probably to the Rector, in which the Bishop grants his consent for the giving of the Apostolic Blessing at the principal mass on Sunday 27 inst: (2) 23.11.1887 from Rector to Fr. McGaskin (the bishop's man of affairs) giving details of the "Missae Pro Populo" celebrated at Holy Cross. At Ligoneil they are said "in caritate" in accordance with our Rules and Constitutions.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Foolscap sheets containng copy of Fr. Vincent Grogan's reply to Bishop McAllisiter's letter of 6 February (se item under serial number 1964). He gives notice of appeal to the Holy See. Gives 3 reasons why Passionists have privileges. All previous provincials, still living, agree with Vincent's statements. He rejects reference to scandalous behaviour (then cancels this out). Arthur Devine appends a note declaring that this is an exact copy of the letter sent to the Bishop..

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne: Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister.

Ardoyne: Dispute with Bishop McAllister. Fr. Anthony Carroll, Superior, Ardoyne, to Fr Provincial. Results of sending Architect's report on state of temporary church to Bishop. Bishop comes and visits locus and sees for himself how bad things are. Anthony urges Provincial to write NOW. (Note by Archivist, Declan O'Sullivan: "Dated Saturday morning Oct. 26th. 1889 is only year that fits.")

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Letter from Fr. Thomas, Consultor General to Arthur Devine. Little to report. Propaganda had advised seeing bishop then in Rome, but he had gone too soon to see him. Thomas had found that Cardinal Simoni's secretary had done nothing but he (Secretary) believes the proposed meeting with bishop will settle matters. Thomas also thinks the bishop's last letter shows that finance is at the botom of the row. Bishop's limiting number of Passionists to those required for parish is indefensible.

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