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Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAllister to Fr. Vincent Grogan, Provincial, in reply to his letter of 24 February (see copy located under serial number 1965. , Says Vincent started this row by threatening to appeal to the Holy See in his very first letter and has repeated this in every letter since. So incorrest to say that bishop obliged him to go to Holy See. Passionists came to Down and Connor of their own free will and have accepted the position for 19 years. Vincent appears blind to the intersts of the Diocese. Bishop would need authenticated certificate of Passionists having privileges of Regulars (Orders).

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy of answer from Sacred Congregation of Propaganda, Rome, to Bishop McAllister. Says it
was necessary for them to consult with Passionists. This being done, they now suggest that the bishop build the church with the assistance of the rector, ownership of the church to belong to the diocese, use of it to belong to the Passionists as long as they are there; with all the details of the Constitution Romanus Pontifices being observed. The bishop to decide on the site, but congregation suggests the one near the retreat becuse of easier access, the fact that the Passioinist are donating the site and helping with the building. For translation of this document see item under serial number 1988.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Dispute with Bishop McAllister.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General to Fr Provincial, Highgate.
Has just told Fr Arthur re conference with Card Simeone. Thinks that Provincial should accept Cardinal's solution. If Fr Anthony comes to London for dedication of new church, a formula could be worked out embodying the two CP conditions, this then could go to Vice General for aspproval.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Wareham:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Wareham: Letter to the Provincial from the Consultor General, Thomas, Rome. Acknowledges several provincial's letters. General is away. Thanks for favourable report on Province. Glad to hear there is prospect of getting £1,000 for Wareham. Thomas doesn't know if he will go to Belfast. Consulta will decide on that after Christmas.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Dr. McAllister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, in reply to his of 20th (see item located under serial number 1976), He rigidly rejects Vincent's offer on the grounds that the matter is now before Propaganda. Doubts Vincent's adherence to any private arrangement. Glad Propaganda is dealing with the matter. Its decision will be final.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Copies of 2 letters, which, though they are included in the "Dispute" arrangement, may not be quite relevant to that heading. (1) 22.11.1887, probably to the Rector, in which the Bishop grants his consent for the giving of the Apostolic Blessing at the principal mass on Sunday 27 inst: (2) 23.11.1887 from Rector to Fr. McGaskin (the bishop's man of affairs) giving details of the "Missae Pro Populo" celebrated at Holy Cross. At Ligoneil they are said "in caritate" in accordance with our Rules and Constitutions.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Foolscap sheets containng copy of Fr. Vincent Grogan's reply to Bishop McAllisiter's letter of 6 February (se item under serial number 1964). He gives notice of appeal to the Holy See. Gives 3 reasons why Passionists have privileges. All previous provincials, still living, agree with Vincent's statements. He rejects reference to scandalous behaviour (then cancels this out). Arthur Devine appends a note declaring that this is an exact copy of the letter sent to the Bishop..

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne: Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister.

Ardoyne: Dispute with Bishop McAllister. Fr. Anthony Carroll, Superior, Ardoyne, to Fr Provincial. Results of sending Architect's report on state of temporary church to Bishop. Bishop comes and visits locus and sees for himself how bad things are. Anthony urges Provincial to write NOW. (Note by Archivist, Declan O'Sullivan: "Dated Saturday morning Oct. 26th. 1889 is only year that fits.")

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Letter from Fr. Thomas, Consultor General to Arthur Devine. Little to report. Propaganda had advised seeing bishop then in Rome, but he had gone too soon to see him. Thomas had found that Cardinal Simoni's secretary had done nothing but he (Secretary) believes the proposed meeting with bishop will settle matters. Thomas also thinks the bishop's last letter shows that finance is at the botom of the row. Bishop's limiting number of Passionists to those required for parish is indefensible.

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