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Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister;

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast: Dispute with Bishop McAllister: MS PHOTOSTAT from copy letter in Highgate Archives. Fr. FRANCIS XAVIER (del Principe);,CP, General, Sts. John and Paul's, Rome to Fr. Provincial (Gregory Callaghan). General asks that Fr. Wilfrid O'Hagan be sent to Rome in connection with the Belfast dispute.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: 1874002 Hilary Mara

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:Hilary Mara: Letter to the Provincial from the Consultor General, Thoms, Rome. Has written and wired to Hilary that permission has been obtained for him to celebrate mass on board ship (on voyage to Australia?).
Bishop McAllister has got the Propaganda letter, but is on visitation at the moment and has not scrutinised it completely. He claims some of the Passionists allegations are untrue. Propaganda has told Thomas that there is no law compelling a bishop to give faculties to all religious in a community, but he cannot refuse faculties to all either. He can use his discretion as to how many faculties he gives.. The Dominicans have come up against this problem also (and that seems to have been the decison given?). Can't expect new law just for C.Ps.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy (draft) letter from Provincial to Bishop McAllister (has a note, "changed a little by Provincial and sent on 20 June). Refers to wish of Sacred Congregation that parties meet and settle matter amicably. Says he mentioned all the restrictions to the Sacred Congregation and that he wishes them all to be matters for settlement so as to avoid future rows. Would like a personal meeting. He would like any arrangement come to to be in writing. He would also like the two men recently ordained by the bishop to have faculties so as to be available for missions. He, therefore, formally presents Frs. Kevin and Ambrose.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: What seems to be a draft of a communication from the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan, to Bishop McAllister. Acknowledges letter dated 13 January and refers to his own previous letter (neither of which are to hand at time of computerisation). He wishes to reorganise Belfast Passioists as a religious community with all their rights and privileges. Enlarges on this. Deals with matters raised by the bishop concerning the new church and his apparent annoyance at remarks made by some Passionists in the matter. He also deals with the bishop's further references to an erring Passionist.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAlister to the Provincial, Fr. Vincent Grogan in answer to his letter of 32 January (see item under serial number 1959). The privileges claimed by Vincent are those of "ORDERS". Passionists are only a congregation. By Vincent's commands the Passionists have broken diocesan regulations in claiming to be able to send as many priests as the provincial thinks fit. The Passionists came 19 years before of their own option, entered into an agreement and kept it until Vincent broke it without the consent of the other party. He mentions the scandal caused by an errant Passionist. The present disagreement has arisen from Vincent's actions so bishop refuses to accede to his demands.

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Letter from Bishop McAllister to Fr. Vincent Grogan, Provincial, in reply to his letter of 24 February (see copy located under serial number 1965. , Says Vincent started this row by threatening to appeal to the Holy See in his very first letter and has repeated this in every letter since. So incorrest to say that bishop obliged him to go to Holy See. Passionists came to Down and Connor of their own free will and have accepted the position for 19 years. Vincent appears blind to the intersts of the Diocese. Bishop would need authenticated certificate of Passionists having privileges of Regulars (Orders).

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister:

Holy Cross Retreat, Ardoyne, Belfast; Dispute with Bishop McAllister: Copy of answer from Sacred Congregation of Propaganda, Rome, to Bishop McAllister. Says it
was necessary for them to consult with Passionists. This being done, they now suggest that the bishop build the church with the assistance of the rector, ownership of the church to belong to the diocese, use of it to belong to the Passionists as long as they are there; with all the details of the Constitution Romanus Pontifices being observed. The bishop to decide on the site, but congregation suggests the one near the retreat becuse of easier access, the fact that the Passioinist are donating the site and helping with the building. For translation of this document see item under serial number 1988.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Dispute with Bishop McAllister.

Holy Cross Retreat: Ardoyne; Belfast:Letter from Fr Thomas, Consultor General to Fr Provincial, Highgate.
Has just told Fr Arthur re conference with Card Simeone. Thinks that Provincial should accept Cardinal's solution. If Fr Anthony comes to London for dedication of new church, a formula could be worked out embodying the two CP conditions, this then could go to Vice General for aspproval.

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